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Shoot The Breeze / Re: My Friend FRANK
« on: January 16, 2011, 04:43:29 AM »
The importance of friends is priceless when battling thru the tough times in life and there's plenty to go around on this board. There's no way to describe how helpful the good comments and caring goes towards the process of healing. You people are all awesome! 

                           :)   Sr.

PDGA / Re: PDGA Name Change?
« on: January 07, 2011, 11:51:45 AM »

The Worlds Disc Golf Club

Courses / Stafford Lake County Park, Novato California
« on: January 04, 2011, 02:59:07 PM »

If you fall over the edge of this tee you die. Junior has pictures of a mountain lion on this course. Best course I ever played. Took a half hour to walk to.

PDGA / Re: 2011 PDGA Rule Changes
« on: December 30, 2010, 09:47:52 AM »


By PDGAStaff  |  Dec 22, 2010

What rules have changed for 2011?

The PDGA Rules Committee has modified several rules that go into effect January 1, 2011. The full text of the updated rules is online here: PDGA Rules 2011 Renewing and new PDGA members will receive a copy of the new combined 2011 PDGA Competition and Rulebook in their member packets.

DROP ZONE: 800 & 803.11
Added the option for TDs to designate a drop zone for a lost disc. This might be done on big downhill holes where lost discs are common and identifying a drop zone farther down the hill speeds play.

HOLING OUT: 803.13
Starting in 2011, a player will not have to remove the disc to complete the process of holing out which was required under current rules. Once the group has decided the disc has come to rest, the player has holed out.

Several target related terms have been officially defined and added to the Definitions section 800 in support of the Holing Out rule. Definitions for Basket Target, Tray, Chains, Chain Support and Pole have been added.

Groups will now be responsible to make judgment calls on how discs enter the basket. Discs that attempt to enter or actually get all the way into the chains or basket thru the top of the chain support or thru the side or bottom of the basket now will not count if the group or official sees that happen. This means wedgies, most which wedge from the outside, now will not count unless it was a blind shot where no one saw how the disc wedged. Putts that are observed to properly enter the basket from above the rim and then wedge trying to get out will count as holed out like before.

These changes for holing out mean calls for the “putting tree” photo shown below that was in the Rules School story on Interference need to be updated. Under the old rules, only the yellow disc would not have been considered holed out when the player removed it. Under 2011 rules, the white and red discs are holed out (IN). The yellow disc as before and the orange disc hanging on the nub outside the basket are NOT IN. The orange disc balancing on the rim, which used to be considered IN, is now considered OUT in the 2011 rules because the disc is not entirely supported by the pole, inner wall or bottom of the basket. The orange wedgie is now NOT IN if the group observed it wedge from the outside. If the group did not see it or watched it clear the top basket wire then wedge on the way out, it is IN
See below for photo diagram.

OPTIONAL RETHROW (formerly Unplayable Lie): 803.06
While changing the rule name seems cosmetic, it eliminates a potential double penalty that might occur when the 2m rule was in force and provides an alternate option for missed mandatories. Under the new Optional Rethrow rule, players who miss a mandatory now have the option to rethrow from their original lie instead of the Mando Drop Zone if they prefer.

Essentially, the Optional Rethrow means players may rethrow from their original lie if their disc lands in any of the disc golf penalty hazards – OB, Missed Mando, above 2m and Lost (which already is handled this way) – and receive a 1-throw penalty. Of course just like the old Unplayable Lie rule, a player may choose this Optional Rethrow penalty without permission from the group no matter where their disc lands whether inbounds or a hazard location.

The old Unplayable Lie rule allowed players to either move back up to 5m on the line of play or return and throw from their original lie. The option to move back up to 5m has been eliminated. Throwing again from the original lie is now the only option as the renamed rule indicates.

GENERAL – Provisional Throws: 803.01C
Although not directly part of the Optional Rethrow rule, the new rule for Provisional Throws clarifies that a player may not later declare a throw they first called a Provisional as their Optional Rethrow. The player must go back and make an optional rethrow (if that's what they decided is the best option) and not use that provisional throw after seeing the results of the provisional and the original throw.

Significant changes here. A player is not allowed to move any obstacle on the course with the exception of casual obstacles to a stance listed below. A player is allowed to request that other people remove themselves and/or their belongings from the player's stance or line of play. This includes spectators, umbrellas, golf bags, chairs, etc…

Casual obstacles as in current rules – casual water, loose leaves or debris, broken branches no longer connected to a tree, motor vehicles, harmful insects or animals, players' equipment, people, or any item or area specifically designated by the director before the round – can be moved if they are in the player’s stance or run-up, even if part of the item like a branch is in front of the lie.

If the casual item can’t be moved, like water or a bee hive, the player may take free relief up to 5m back on the line of play like before. If players require additional relief beyond 5m, they may invoke either the new Optional Relief rule (803.05C) and go back on the line of play as far as they desire with a one-throw penalty. Or, decide to declare the Optional Rethrow discussed previously and return to their original lie and throw again with a one-throw penalty.

The “disc below playing surface” phrase has been moved from the Rules Q&A and added to this rule. This applies to a disc located down on a “non-playing surface” that players would not be able to play from such as a crack in the ground. The “disc below playing surface” section does not apply to a disc resting on or above a playing surface where another playing surface like a bridge might also pass above the disc. It’s possible that moving vertically from the front edge of the disc closest to the target up to the level playing surface might be a point in space. If so, then mark the lie on the playing surface near the edge of the crack on the line of play no closer to the target.

Thank You for that info Jesse! I hope we get new rule books with our memberships this year. Probably unlikely but that would be cool. I'm sure going to need one to remember all of those.

Leagues & Tourneys / Re: 2011 Fox Valley Ice Bowl
« on: December 22, 2010, 01:58:11 AM »
Announcing the FIRST EVER 100/100 CTP Fundraiser!!!
At the 2011 Aurora Ice Bowl I will be running a CTP fundraiser, one disc to be awarded for each round.  $1 per round.
100% of the proceeds will go to the Hesed House.
I will then match 100% of what is pulled in and present it to the J-town Ice Bowl for their charity, Morning Star Mission on behalf of the FVMDGC Ice Bowl.
Depending on which tees are played, I'm thinking hole 12.
The first round disc is yet to be decided, vote for it here; http://foxvalleymetrodiscgolfclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2118.0
The second round disc will be a 2011 Asia Open Champion Glo Firebird FX, 175 g (the flattest, most over stable Firebird, maybe ever!)
Let's show some inter-club love and support both charities!
I'll see you at BOTH Ice Bowls.
Tafe Hemler
Way to go Taferoo!!!!!


Thank You's / Re: Thank you J-Town
« on: December 20, 2010, 07:29:52 AM »
Thanks for all the kind words guys!  Don't worry Jesse, Chicago will always be #1 no matter what! If you can't tell just look at the color of my hair. LOL. 

       MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!                             

Thank You's / Thank you J-Town
« on: December 16, 2010, 07:28:14 PM »
I am looking for a place to stay in Rochester Minnesota close to Mayo Clinic. The dates I need are from March 2nd thru March 24th. I am looking forward to starting a better quality of life. It's the light at the end of the tunnel I have been looking for the last 4 years. Thank You from the bottom of my heart to all of you who have supported me through my struggles. J-Town always makes me feel welcome.



Shoot The Breeze / Re: Best Players In Illinois When You Started
« on: December 04, 2010, 12:55:25 AM »
I will have to say that I love being the bug. Frank deserved it. If being the bug is spending the afternoon with great people, I will be the bug every day! Couldn't touch flash today he was on. Frank got some tips today that made those drives pretty impressive. January 1st Frankie is all I can say! lol lol


Lost & Found / Re: Lost at Highland
« on: December 03, 2010, 03:59:24 AM »
I lost a stained wooden mini with a Dancing Bear engraved in it. It was lost on hole #2 about 40 feet out at the 4 or 5 oclock position facing basket. That mini is special to me and I will reward the finder with a choice of disc or a nice steak dinner! Please post if found.

                     Thanks,  Sr.
Tell your friend thanks Cory! I'm bringing some discs Sunday for you to choose from for your reward. I'll be there around 10 or so. Getting this back is pretty sweet stuff!


Courses / Re: Disc Golf Course Review
« on: November 28, 2010, 03:09:19 AM »
Will let you know about this one after I get back.

I loved Golden Gate Park in California. Not much elevation but a pretty good layout with the woods. The smell from the pines and looks of this park are awesome and next to none. Saw a peak of Golden Gate bridge from a tee. The way it's surrounded by the City is neat. Birdied the first hole right off the plane and had a four stroke lead but Junior came back to beat me by one.

                   STAFFORD LAKE COUNTY PARK
Juniors town is on Highway 101 so on the way back from San Fransisco we stopped at this gem of a course for a round. WOW! Randy only golfed it once before and got 2 awesome pictures of a mountain lion. There are signs warning you. Best course I ever played. Elevation was unreal and this course has about 3 different tee placements for every hole. Probably the most challenging course I will ever play. You have to rest before half of your shots because of the climb. The first hole was about 600 feet straight up the mountain. I banged a 80 footer for par and Junior bogied. As usual I got beat up by the pro in this one. The course ate me up but Junior shot about +5 . That's good! The views of the mountains and the layout is fabulous! If your ever out on Highway 101 in California, stop at Novato and play this course. Then go North to the Ave. of the Giants. The biggest Redwoods I have ever seen! What a blast these courses were!

Courses / Re: Disc Golf Course Review
« on: November 23, 2010, 04:11:03 AM »
Will let you know about this one after I get back.


Lost & Found / Re: Lost at Highland
« on: November 22, 2010, 05:27:42 PM »
I lost a stained wooden mini with a Dancing Bear engraved in it. It was lost on hole #2 about 40 feet out at the 4 or 5 oclock position facing basket. That mini is special to me and I will reward the finder with a choice of disc or a nice steak dinner! Please post if found.

                     Thanks,  Sr.

Shoot The Breeze / Re: Best Players In Illinois When You Started
« on: November 20, 2010, 08:20:20 AM »
Played 2 rounds with Flash and Frank at Eagle Ridge. Lost first round to Flash by one stroke. Then beat Flash by 4 strokes second round shooting a -8.
                                 I'm in la la land!

 As the saying goes: There's a first time for everything!


Shoot The Breeze / Re: Gary Lewis Achievement Award
« on: November 18, 2010, 08:22:52 AM »
Franks achievements were not only in the J-Town area. Frank managed to venture off to Eagle Ridge Park in Oswego and put in some high quality tee boxes and to be chased around by the Park District for removing stumps lol lol. So glad to see such positive results for you Frank.

                             Positive, positive, positive!


Shoot The Breeze / Re: My Friend FRANK
« on: November 17, 2010, 12:58:46 PM »
                      ;D    0.36    ;)


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