Yes, I understand that Frank. You have posted that elsewhere and we have all read it. I'm certainly not condoning that, and I don't like that it happened.
That does not mean, however, that I can't, or won't tell everyone if/when Jon does something good for the disc golf community. And I think it is a bad strategy to chime in here to make sure that you ruin any credit that he gets for helping me out with this clinic. For the record, I was in a bind after one instructor cancelled. If Jon had not been willing to volunteer with less than 24 hours notice, I would have had to run the clinic myself, with no experience doing so. Are you of the opinion that he should never be allowed to do any good for the community since that happened? Or is it just that you won't allow him to take credit for anything until he makes that right?
In either case, I would appreciate it if you would keep your negativity out of my positive posts. There is no reason for you to be pissing in my cornflakes here. Further, the tone of your post makes it sound as if I have, by extension, insulted you in some way by posting that. I take exception to that, and will defend my right to post here about the positive things that happen in the disc golf community.
I thought that you of all people would have respect for that.
Let's put this in a little perspective shall we?
I ran a disc golf clinic to help teach some young kids how to play disc golf and introduce them to the sport. This is supposed to be a good thing. I post about it here in a positive manner. And, as you taught me so well, I gave credit to the person who helped me out. The response I get from you is right there for everyone to read.
Now I ask you, was my post the proper forum for you to say that? How am I supposed to feel after reading that?
Or should you have respected the good I am trying to do in the community and left your negative comments for another day and another place where it would be more appropriate?
I know that a lot of people are going to side with you because of the great body of work you have done helping out with course prep and just a boat load of other great things for the community. Channahon is a beautiful course and much of that is a direct result of all your hard work. I also know that you are always there when J-town needs help with putting in concrete, or getting Highland ready for the tournament. I too am thankful for all the work that you have done. I am just asking that you respect my work in the community as well. And I don't think your post does that.....
Thanks, Patrick, for the respect you've shown to me. I sincerely appreciate your sentiment. My intent, however, is not to start a discussion board war with you or anyone else. With that said, you should know that I hold certain moral standards very high, particularly stealing, especially stealing from your friends -- by the way, there has been no effort to correct the wrong that was committed despite the fact that I gave him that opportunity -- and I feel that I, and others (see the post Jonie B. Good) have been wronged by Jon. I'm not here to slander Jon, and I'm glad you had a positive experience with Jon, but my experience with him was vastly different than yours. I feel that those who read these posts are intelligent enough to form their own opinions, both good opinions and bad ones. To only say good things about Jon when I've had (and others have had) such negative experiences based on his lack of moral integrity, I feel, would be a great disservice to the disc golf community.
Respectfully, Frank PS Jon had my trust & let me down. It would be disappointing to our community, that the people he's teaching, learn about his charactor as me & others have. We have enough hurdles to jump.
I just wanted to officially thank Jon Boster for agreeing to help teach this clinic on short notice. I know he is unlikely to see this post, but others will. And I owe him thanks for being there to help me when I needed it.
The clinic went very well. The kids loved it, and by the end, all of the adults present wanted a go at it as well. Hey Patrick, thanks for the official notice.
Hey Patrick, thanks for the official notice. Jon Boster is a thief, he steals, & he lies. Give me something official when he pays Mick the $50.00 he stole from him. I hope you're not giving any history lesson about Jon Boster, officially. He needs to make things fight in our Disc Golf Community, Officially!!! & Period!!!
Hole #11 at Channahon has turned out to be a big pain for one reason & another. Different reasons, wet weather, equipment breakdown, lack of cooperation from the Park (to be fair disc golf is low priority, no revenue) timing to be there. That changed today. Shawn Harmon, & Roy Bazan along with Brian McCarthy from the Park, including myself removed the rock. That paved the way to get the pulverized dirt. It seems when I get in a spot those two are there. Thanks Shawn & Roy we moved a lot of rocks.
Today is a day that I haven't felt better in a long time. The thought of dying of cancer has been a big deal to me. The Gleason score of 8 has been my concern. I slept through the night last night, I think a little Jack helped. I realize having cancer is old news, but for me it's a daily reality. It has made my struggle much easier because of so many that care. Believe me, it's easy to say I quit. I can't quit with the love & suppot I'm getting. I might add to keep you thoughts & prayres for Randy Moore Sr. He has been a 4 year struggle.
Did you people notice winter league is starting at 10:30am? We at one time, started at 10:00am, & then 10:30 & then 11:00 Mike has to get up with the new baby, so he'll be up at at it. Congratulations Mike & Amy! Glad to see it Mick,Mike, & Carbo. I'm pleased we're starting a little earlier so we can watch, Da Bears!!!
Thanks for that Randy, you were a good inspiration for me. I thought that was so cool when you & Fox Valley first did that. I hoped i could some day do something for our area. We, J-Town, have a club now, a year old. It was a good opportunity to do something. You were an inspiration to me & Thor made mention of & the rest is history. Thor also took me by the hand to show me his approach, as you did also. I think it's a super, great thing. I have to thank Pitner also for getting caught up in our enthusiasm & giving the Mission the winter jackets.
That looks awesome Jason, #4. I think we need to get a better coat of stain so the color shows up better. Maybe the different light as you took the pictures make the stain look different. It looks very nice Jason!
I had some of the same thoughts when I came home. A good tournament is a huge amount of work. Jesse, you & your staff did a tremendous job. The more I see what it takes to run a tournament, it blows my mind what Gary Lewis did years ago. The names that come to mind are of course you Jesse, Gary Lewis, Mike Kursell (unbelievable) Jason Poole. They're certainly others like Jake spotting on #9, Dean & Laureen also filled in spotting on long #6, Roy bringing his basket. I know there are others that don't come to mind immediately. Whoops, I think you can fit Darrin in there someplace. Whoops again, Dale & Wrong Way (Phil) The synergy is awesome. Good work Jesse!
I couldn't agree with you more Dean! Ben! You are not special! That sign is posted because there was an incident. The park does not need the liability. Something happened Ben for them to put the sign up & I wish you would respect the privilege you have to play there. It's different than drinking, someone could get hurt or there could be property damage. The solution is real simple, if you don't like the rules & conditions, don't play there!!! What's going to happen is the basket will be removed. Why do a few have to ruin it for many. You need to join the military, you'll learn what no means or pay the consequences. Keep it up & get caught & the basket will be gone. I'm going to tell you what I really think the next time I see you. You don't seem to be a reasonable person & just care about yourself.
An interesting thing happen to me yesterday. I bumped into the park superintendent yesterday.We ended talking about the meeting we had a week ago. The two supervisors talked a couple of days before & the executive director said it doesn't look good for Frank. I felt like a used whore & my age was showing. Any way both of us where ready to tell the other to take a hike. I've had years of negative build up & was prepared to throw it down the tubes. I just wanted to get one more thing done. Like I said, I thought about it for some time & they probably felt the same way. It was music to my ears when I was told we like what you do & want you to continue. It brings me back to,do you believe in God?
Ha, ha, ha, ha! You see I get confused easy sometimes too, that made me chuckle. Some morning it's great to get up & have something put a smile on my face. I have a picture of Jesse going oops & Dean (bangam) going, what's up with that.
It really worked out pretty well tonight relative to cross country. They start around 4:15 & are wrapping up by 5:15. the bangam had everybody start past #3 so by the time we got to #16 everything was clear. The relative new xc route was brought before the Channahon Park district board some years & they went along with the new route. It worked out nicely for tonight. Of course when they have a big meet nothing works for disc golf. Tuesday & Thursday are usually much smaller. Not relative to xc was the rain! It just dumped,with lightning!!! Some didn't finish.
We may have a problem with our handicap league Tuesday 09/21 at Channahon. It's cross country season & Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturday morning are cross country days. Sometimes on week days there are only a few runners & sometimes many. I know this & should have said something sooner. I have no conclusion, we'll just have to see.