Sorry Barcas, but this is exactly what I disagree with when it comes to lost discs. Instead of offering a "punch in the face" for not returning it, how about offering a reward for it's return?
So many discs get lost and never returned. We need to encourage players to return discs.
Assuming that they kept it on purpose and threatening them with bodily harm is probably not going to be constructive.
If I see someone on the course with your disc, I will offer them one of mine in return and then I'll track you down to give it back to you. Now, if someone comes up to me and punches me in the face, I'm going to owe you the same in return.
I am trying to put together a teaching clinic for a group of scouts. Vibram has offered up to 24 factory seconds of their soon to be released disc to be given away to community groups. As a Vibram retailer, I have been offered this opportunity.
Anyone who would be interested in spending some time teaching some young scouts (probably 9-10 years old) how to play, please get in touch with me.
This is very early in the planning stages. I have an email out to a scout troop to see if they are interested. Once I get the go ahead from them, I'm going to reserve those discs from Vibram, and we can give each participant a free disc.
"Do you think if you found someones car keys that you have a new car?"
Someone turned in a lost set of car keys to me once, but I was never able to find the car.........so I guess the answer is no to that one....
Seriously though, I agree 100%. I believe in making a good faith effort to return a lost item.
The first disc I ever got back was my tribal skull Valk. I loved that disc! Lost it at trinity on hole two when it went in the water. I took one look at the water and said to myself "Self, you are not going in there."
About a year later a guy came up to my table to turn in some used discs. He was bragging about all the discs he pulled out of the pond at Trinity and he fanned out a small pile of them. I saw my Valk in there. I pointed it out to him and asked him politely if he wouldn't mind giving it back to me in return for any disc from my pile, and he was happy to do so.
Personally, I would never have gone in that water to get my disc. This guy did me a huge favor by doing so. It was only right that I offer him something in return. Since then, I have followed that same idea whenever someone returns a disc to me.
I have personally experienced the lost and found that you and Blaine run. Got back one of my prized discs just before the last tournament at Oswego. Thanks again!
For those of you who don't know them, Blaine and Christie are fantastic people. When I caught up with them to get my disc, they were busy helping out the TD to get the course ready for the tournament. Both of them are super nice people!
Well, I'm glad you thanked him. I missed that....my apologies.
I'm sure he was planning on trading it in. That happens all the time. And, to answer your question to me, I would have taken it in trade. I do, however, return discs to people from my bin when I can. Especially when I know the person trading it in is not the person on the disc, though that is tough to determine sometimes. I have been known to call the number on a disc just to see if the person wants it back. I have returned about half a dozen discs this way, including one worth about $50.
I agree with you that he should have tried the email addy. I know I always do.
And, just to be clear, this was not a post that was meant to be directed at you. I was just using the most recent example in my memory to make my point.
I certainly don't want to make this post about you. I want EVERYONE to think about how they view lost discs, both those that get returned to you, and those that you find. And I stand by my statement that if a player loses a disc, it no longer belongs to them. They do not have a right to demand it back if the person does not want to give it up. And they certainly don't have the right to beat someone up over it (I have overheard threats regarding lost discs in the past.)
On the other hand, I would hope that all players feel some obligation to return a lost disc whenever possible. If the players name and phone number is on it, there is no excuse not to try.
I'm glad you responded and I'm really glad you thanked the guy. That is so important. Anything we can all do to encourage positive behavior in the disc golf community is a plus. And once again, sorry I didn't hear that, and sorry I used you as an example.
Has anyone ever found a lost disc of yours? What is the accepted etiquette for that situation?
I'm asking because I saw an exchange between two disc golfers in front of my table the other day. One golfer saw that the other one had one of his lost discs. He was polite about pointing out that it was his, and then he took it back. (He didn't ask for it back, he just took it.)
My problem with this is that I didn't hear him even say thank you. Granted, the other golfer didn't come forward with the disc. But, it is my contention that we should be encouraging golfers to return discs in a positive way. For my part, when a disc gets returned to me, I offer up any disc in my used bin, or in my personal stash of unused discs that I keep in my trunk. I feel this is a win-win because I get my prized disc back, while they get to choose from a bunch of used discs in return. Usually, the other golfer finds a disc they prefer over the one they are returning to me anyway. This costs me almost nothing, and it encourages those golfers honest enough to do so to continue returning lost discs.
Please keep in mind when this situation comes up that "your" lost disc isn't really yours anymore. You lost it. They found it. We all know that saying.
I've overheard a LOT of golfers talking about what they would do to a person they caught carrying a disc they lost. Please adjust your attitude so that we can encourage people to come forward and return lost discs to their original owners.
I'm open to a discussion with anyone who feels I am wrong.....
Looks like live scoring will be available too, with the following doubles teams: Avery Jenkins & Steve Brinster, Cale Leiviska & Michael Johansen, Jeb Bryant & Matt Orum, Des Reading & Liz Lopez, Sarah Stanhope & Paige Pierce, Valerie Jenkins & Sarah Hokom, Dave Feldberg & Bradley Williams, Nate Doss & Ken Kreie, and Nikko Locastro & Jeremy Koling.
I am very pleased to be able to offer live coverage of the 2010 Vibram Open on my website! Just follow the link off the front page of my website at www.acesandchains.com.
Planned coverage schedule
Thursday, August 12th
Noon - Champion's Dubs 3:00 - Ace Dubs
Friday, August 13th
2:30 - SuperGroup 1 - Pro Worlds Final Four Rematch 2:45 - SuperGroup 2 - Vibram Open Champions & a Five Spotter
Saturday, August 14th
10:22 - Lead Women's Card 3:30 - Lead Men's Card 7:00 - Long Drive Finals, presented by Lamoureux Ford 7:45 - Putting Contest Finals, presented by 10 Down 8:30 - Twisted MPH Finals, presented by Twisted Flyer 9:15 - Accuracy Finals, presented by Nite Ize 10:00 - Impromptu Pie Eating Contest with Table Talk Pies
Sunday, August 15th
11:30 - Lead Women's Card 12:30 - Lead Men's Card
It is currently clipping a bit on the right, but that is only affecting the chat box and one of the ads. Video box is fully visible and should be fine. I am working with Vibram to see if there is a solution. If need be, when the video starts playing, you can put your cursor over the video box and select "full" to make the video full screen.
If anyone has any other problems with the feed, please let me know. This is very experimental both on my part, and on Vibrams. I am excited to see how it works out.