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Clinic instructors wanted!
« on: September 01, 2010, 12:06:32 PM »
I am trying to put together a teaching clinic for a group of scouts. Vibram has offered up to 24 factory seconds of their soon to be released disc to be given away to community groups. As a Vibram retailer, I have been offered this opportunity.

Anyone who would be interested in spending some time teaching some young scouts (probably 9-10 years old) how to play, please get in touch with me.

This is very early in the planning stages. I have an email out to a scout troop to see if they are interested. Once I get the go ahead from them, I'm going to reserve those discs from Vibram, and we can give each participant a free disc.

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 01:13:51 PM »
I'm in. 630-346-9483. Let me know Patrick.

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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2010, 05:52:37 PM »
Patrick,

Depending on when you are doing this, I would be interested. Send me a PM or an e-mail with any updated info.

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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2010, 01:53:07 PM »
I just wanted to officially thank Jon Boster for agreeing to help teach this clinic on short notice. I know he is unlikely to see this post, but others will. And I owe him thanks for being there to help me when I needed it.

The clinic went very well. The kids loved it, and by the end, all of the adults present wanted a go at it as well.



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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 02:27:57 AM »
I just wanted to officially thank Jon Boster for agreeing to help teach this clinic on short notice. I know he is unlikely to see this post, but others will. And I owe him thanks for being there to help me when I needed it.

The clinic went very well. The kids loved it, and by the end, all of the adults present wanted a go at it as well. Hey Patrick, thanks for the official notice.




Hey Patrick, thanks for the official notice. Jon Boster is a thief, he steals, & he lies. Give me something official when he pays Mick the $50.00 he stole from him. I hope you're not giving any history lesson about Jon Boster, officially. He needs to make things fight in our Disc Golf Community, Officially!!! &  Period!!!
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 11:42:41 AM »
Frank,

Yes, I understand that Frank. You have posted that elsewhere and we have all read it. I'm certainly not condoning that, and I don't like that it happened.

That does not mean, however, that I can't, or won't tell everyone if/when Jon does something good for the disc golf community. And I think it is a bad strategy to chime in here to make sure that you ruin any credit that he gets for helping me out with this clinic. For the record, I was in a bind after one instructor cancelled. If Jon had not been willing to volunteer with less than 24 hours notice, I would have had to run the clinic myself, with no experience doing so. Are you of the opinion that he should never be allowed to do any good for the community since that happened? Or is it just that you won't allow him to take credit for anything until he makes that right?

In either case, I would appreciate it if you would keep your negativity out of my positive posts. There is no reason for you to be pissing in my cornflakes here. Further, the tone of your post makes it sound as if I have, by extension, insulted you in some way by posting that. I take exception to that, and will defend my right to post here about the positive things that happen in the disc golf community.

I thought that you of all people would have respect for that.

Let's put this in a little perspective shall we?

I ran a disc golf clinic to help teach some young kids how to play disc golf and introduce them to the sport. This is supposed to be a good thing. I post about it here in a positive manner. And, as you taught me so well, I gave credit to the person who helped me out. The response I get from you is right there for everyone to read.

Now I ask you, was my post the proper forum for you to say that? How am I supposed to feel after reading that?

Or should you have respected the good I am trying to do in the community and left your negative comments for another day and another place where it would be more appropriate?

I know that a lot of people are going to side with you because of the great body of work you have done helping out with course prep and just a boat load of other great things for the community. Channahon is a beautiful course and much of that is a direct result of all your hard work. I also know that you are always there when J-town needs help with putting in concrete, or getting Highland ready for the tournament. I too am thankful for all the work that you have done. I am just asking that you respect my work in the community as well. And I don't think your post does that.....

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Patrick
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 09:32:56 PM »
Frank,

Yes, I understand that Frank. You have posted that elsewhere and we have all read it. I'm certainly not condoning that, and I don't like that it happened.

That does not mean, however, that I can't, or won't tell everyone if/when Jon does something good for the disc golf community. And I think it is a bad strategy to chime in here to make sure that you ruin any credit that he gets for helping me out with this clinic. For the record, I was in a bind after one instructor cancelled. If Jon had not been willing to volunteer with less than 24 hours notice, I would have had to run the clinic myself, with no experience doing so. Are you of the opinion that he should never be allowed to do any good for the community since that happened? Or is it just that you won't allow him to take credit for anything until he makes that right?

In either case, I would appreciate it if you would keep your negativity out of my positive posts. There is no reason for you to be pissing in my cornflakes here. Further, the tone of your post makes it sound as if I have, by extension, insulted you in some way by posting that. I take exception to that, and will defend my right to post here about the positive things that happen in the disc golf community.

I thought that you of all people would have respect for that.

Let's put this in a little perspective shall we?

I ran a disc golf clinic to help teach some young kids how to play disc golf and introduce them to the sport. This is supposed to be a good thing. I post about it here in a positive manner. And, as you taught me so well, I gave credit to the person who helped me out. The response I get from you is right there for everyone to read.

Now I ask you, was my post the proper forum for you to say that? How am I supposed to feel after reading that?

Or should you have respected the good I am trying to do in the community and left your negative comments for another day and another place where it would be more appropriate?

I know that a lot of people are going to side with you because of the great body of work you have done helping out with course prep and just a boat load of other great things for the community. Channahon is a beautiful course and much of that is a direct result of all your hard work. I also know that you are always there when J-town needs help with putting in concrete, or getting Highland ready for the tournament. I too am thankful for all the work that you have done. I am just asking that you respect my work in the community as well. And I don't think your post does that.....

respectfully,
Patrick
Thanks, Patrick, for the respect you've shown to me.  I sincerely appreciate your sentiment.  My intent, however, is not to start a discussion board war with you or anyone else.  With that said, you should know that I hold certain moral standards very high, particularly stealing, especially stealing from your friends -- by the way, there has been no effort to correct the wrong that was committed despite the fact that I gave him that opportunity -- and I feel that I, and others (see the post Jonie B. Good) have been wronged by Jon.  I'm not here to slander Jon, and I'm glad you had a positive experience with Jon, but my experience with him was vastly different than yours.  I feel that those who read these posts are intelligent enough to form their own opinions, both good opinions and bad ones.  To only say good things about Jon when I've had (and others have had) such negative experiences based on his lack of moral integrity, I feel, would be a great disservice to the disc golf community.
 
Respectfully,
Frank
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Jon had my trust & let me down. It would be disappointing to our community, that the people he's teaching, learn about his charactor as me & others have. We have enough hurdles to jump.
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Re: Clinic instructors wanted!
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 07:06:16 AM »
Frank,

I appreciate your measured response. I'm very glad that we can have a discussion about this without starting a war on the message board. That is not my intent either.

Honestly, I was hurt by some of what you said in your first post. It bothered me. I wanted to post about the positive experience I had running the clinic. And now, this whole post just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I'd like to take this discussion off board and talk to you in person about it. That way, we can clear the air and hopefully avoid any further issues of this kind. I'll try to get in touch with you soon. At the very latest, we can talk at the dbls party on Saturday.

My thanks, and respect as always,
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 09:29:32 AM »
I just had to get back on here and mention how our discussion went. I caught up with Frank at Channahon yesterday. As usual, he was out working hard on the course. (Does this guy ever stop working?) Though he was busy with a lot of different people pulling him one way or another, he stopped and took the time to talk with me about everything.

I walked away very impressed. He was cordial, and understanding. He listened to everything I had to say and I could tell that he considered my words. I think we hashed everything out pretty well. I believe I have also misconstrued some things between us in the past, and that was my mistake.

I'm sure we'll have disagreements in the future, but knowing that I can approach him about a disagreement, and have a pleasant and intelligent discussion about it is a great thing. Not very many people handle a discussion like that in a positive way.

So I just wanted to say thanks, and kudos to you Frank. My respect for you went up another notch, if that's even possible.

Sincerely,
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2010, 06:19:57 PM »
Extremely kind words, Patrick. Thank you. I'm glad you chased me down. Knowing where you're coming & what you're doing has moved my respect for you up also. It's easy to discuss things when someone's heart in the right place. It seems when someone is involved with disc golf for personal gain the bar moves up, & it makes things more difficult.
 What I've noticed different from past years is we've had cliques. It appears to me we're becoming of one body, the club may be a part of that.  I believe that although it seems I do a lot on my own, I do get help. It's hard for me to remember everyone, but my focus lately has been #11, & Shawn Harmon comes to mind. He picked up & delivered scrap block for the bottom course on that hole. Many have helped me; I just get the credit.
Kudos to you, Patrick Johnson. Keep moving forward with a good heart.

Sincerely,
Frank
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