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Worlds Smoking Ban
« on: April 22, 2011, 09:19:17 AM »
http://www.pdga.com/worlds-smoking-ban

Smoking has been banned during competition at both the 2011 PDGA Professional and Amateur Disc Golf World Championships. Players will not be permitted to smoke from the start of play until the playerís scorecard has been submitted. Smoking of any kind during competition could result in immediate disqualification and further disciplinary action as stated in the PDGA Competition Manual, Section 3.3 Player Misconduct.

After many months of contemplation, In January 2011 the PDGA Board made the decision to restrict smoking during both the 2011 PDGA Pro World Championships in Santa Cruz CA and the 2011 PDGA Amateur & Junior World Championships in Rochester NY. The Board was well aware of the potential ramifications of this decision and how others have addressed this issue, and this board (as has past boards) debated this issue for some time before making this decision for 2011.The board has not made any decisions on a long term smoking policy for our major events. With the 2011 PDGA Pro Worlds in Santa Cruz requiring a smoking ban due to the drought conditions in California, the Board felt this was the opportune time to test the waters on the impact of a smoking ban at our two (2) most visible and public events Ė the PDGA World Championships.

We will evaluate the effects of this policy for the future at our 2011 Fall Summit, and we welcome your comments and suggestions.

ON BEHALF OF THE 2011 PDGA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

Dave ďNezĒ Nesbitt

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2011, 03:15:45 PM »
Great rule. Wish it was PDGA wide! Cigarette butts are sickening.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 06:28:39 AM »
I read that on the PDGA website & it freaked me out! The problem I have with that rule is more & more of our rights are taken away. The government is trying to tell us what to eat, what light bulbs to buy, what cars to drive. Now the PDGA board! There is a rule & it's called a courtesy violation to deal with cigarettes butts. I don't smoke & cigarette smoke makes me gag. I believe in freedom! I strongly disapprove of this rule.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2011, 07:29:03 AM »
Obesity in our children today is running rampant. Love taking pop out of schools and making healthier meals for the kids!  But if a child wants to eat unhealthy they can still pack a lunch full of fat if they want. Obesity will skyrocket health insurance in the future. So out of control. Should of done that years ago. You can buy any light bulb you want still but only makes sense to save money and the earth.  You can still buy any car you want. Nobody can force you to buy any car. And coutesy rules won't clean up the butts and keep the smoke away from the people who don't want their lungs full of cancer. If you can play a round without drinking it's pretty safe to say you can play a round without smoking. I love this free country of ours!!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 08:31:59 PM »
.. so far, i am for and against this.. obviously, i smoke, so its gonna change the way i feel about it.. but its for the good and for the bad.. cigarette butts do make a course look bad.. they smell, and they are everywhere.. but thats from the people who dont care.. its not too hard to keep ur cig butt in ur dg bag.. thats what i do after i smoke.. and then i empty my bag after.. just dont be rude and throw em on the ground.. top pros like climo and feldberg smoke.. i just dont understand the ppl who complain about the smoke.. ppl smoke everywhere.. just dont stand by someone who is smoking. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2011, 10:15:56 PM »
Obesity in our children today is running rampant. Love taking pop out of schools and making healthier meals for the kids!  But if a child wants to eat unhealthy they can still pack a lunch full of fat if they want. Obesity will skyrocket health insurance in the future. So out of control. Should of done that years ago. You can buy any light bulb you want still but only makes sense to save money and the earth.  You can still buy any car you want. Nobody can force you to buy any car. And coutesy rules won't clean up the butts and keep the smoke away from the people who don't want their lungs full of cancer. If you can play a round without drinking it's pretty safe to say you can play a round without smoking. I love this free country of ours!!!
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You are a silly, silly man. First how can you be free when others tell you what to do & when you can do it?  Our freedom is being taken away inch by inch!!! Silly man, you can't see what's going on?  Catholic churches can't have bake sales! General Electric didn't pay any taxes. What's wrong with that picture? Back to the obesity. Should the government ban donuts? Or give out coupons ? 
This to me is an extension of what the government is doing.  Telling me I can't smoke outdoors freaks me out!! I agree to field strip your cigarette butts. And Hey, I pick up cigarette butts,  twice as many as you, I have two hands.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 10:42:55 PM »
Obesity in our children today is running rampant. Love taking pop out of schools and making healthier meals for the kids!  But if a child wants to eat unhealthy they can still pack a lunch full of fat if they want. Obesity will skyrocket health insurance in the future. So out of control. Should of done that years ago. You can buy any light bulb you want still but only makes sense to save money and the earth.  You can still buy any car you want. Nobody can force you to buy any car. And coutesy rules won't clean up the butts and keep the smoke away from the people who don't want their lungs full of cancer. If you can play a round without drinking it's pretty safe to say you can play a round without smoking. I love this free country of ours!!!
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You are a silly, silly man. First how can you be free when others tell you what to do & when you can do it?  Our freedom is being taken away inch by inch!!! Silly man, you can't see what's going on?  Catholic churches can't have bake sales! General Electric didn't pay any taxes. What's wrong with that picture? Back to the obesity. Should the government ban donuts? Or give out coupons ? 
This to me is an extension of what the government is doing.  Telling me I can't smoke outdoors freaks me out!! I agree to field strip your cigarette butts. And Hey, I pick up cigarette butts,  twice as many as you, I have two hands.
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Nobody tells me what to do or when to do it! General Electric and big oil don't pay taxes because of the loopholes Bush gave them. I still buy donuts all the time. And you need to quit listening to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh! Your being brainwashed by that propaganda my brother!

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 06:41:02 AM »
Obesity in our children today is running rampant. Love taking pop out of schools and making healthier meals for the kids!  But if a child wants to eat unhealthy they can still pack a lunch full of fat if they want. Obesity will skyrocket health insurance in the future. So out of control. Should of done that years ago. You can buy any light bulb you want still but only makes sense to save money and the earth.  You can still buy any car you want. Nobody can force you to buy any car. And coutesy rules won't clean up the butts and keep the smoke away from the people who don't want their lungs full of cancer. If you can play a round without drinking it's pretty safe to say you can play a round without smoking. I love this free country of ours!!!
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You are a silly, silly man. First how can you be free when others tell you what to do & when you can do it?  Our freedom is being taken away inch by inch!!! Silly man, you can't see what's going on?  Catholic churches can't have bake sales! General Electric didn't pay any taxes. What's wrong with that picture? Back to the obesity. Should the government ban donuts? Or give out coupons ? 
This to me is an extension of what the government is doing.  Telling me I can't smoke outdoors freaks me out!! I agree to field strip your cigarette butts. And Hey, I pick up cigarette butts,  twice as many as you, I have two hands.
Your friend & brother! :)
Nobody tells me what to do or when to do it! General Electric and big oil don't pay taxes because of the loopholes Bush gave them. I still buy donuts all the time. And you need to quit listening to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh! Your being brainwashed by that propaganda my brother!

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Ha! Ha! We'll talk more when you take me out to BWW'ds. I don't like the rule, period. Let's get Jesse in here, he statted this! The trouble maker didn't even give an opinion.



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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 07:35:45 AM »
Yes! I love this stuff! Two good buddies battling over a disc golf issue and then the inevitable happens. Politics rears its head and takes control over their minds. That was entertaining. You guys should run for some type of office so you can release all that stuff built up inside. Donít worry we still love you guys.
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My opinion is I think the rule is harsh for the players who take care of their habitís mess. At any Worlds level I think majority of the players know to pick-up after themselves and most are courteous to where their smoke blows.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 09:55:05 AM »
Yes! I love this stuff! Two good buddies battling over a disc golf issue and then the inevitable happens. Politics rears its head and takes control over their minds. That was entertaining. You guys should run for some type of office so you can release all that stuff built up inside. Donít worry we still love you guys.
What would we do without you.

My opinion is I think the rule is harsh for the players who take care of their habitís mess. At any Worlds level I think majority of the players know to pick-up after themselves and most are courteous to where their smoke blows.
It's all good! Ain't the first time me and Frankie talked politics and it probably won't be the last. We are going to BWW for sure Frank when I get back from Georgia. I still have that coupon for us and I can't wait to have your company again Brother! I know you have been working your ass off at Channy and I can't wait to get out there to see all the good things you did. Much appreciated for your hard work for all of us Disc Golfers! YOU DA MAN!!! And I still love the trouble maker Jesse lol lol!
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 09:56:07 PM »
Hey Jr. this isn't over! I didn't think you smoked dope, you're comments make me wonder. General Electric make turbine blades for the bogus wind energy. The government (toy boy obama) gives them money to make the blades & they out source them. Jeff Immelt, CEO for GE, is the jobs Czar for the toy boy administration. Huh?! They didn't pay income tax, oh I forgot that's Bush's fault. I never paid more for gasoline, over $4.00, that f'n Bush. Oh I get it, the 800 billion omnibus bill didn't work, that f'n Bush. The S&P downgraded our long term debt rating, I know, I know, Bush! We can give two billion to Brazil for their off shore drilling but ban the U.S. drilling. Then he tells Brazil we'll be their best customer. I know Bush told him what to say.
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 09:58:40 PM »
.. so far, i am for and against this.. obviously, i smoke, so its gonna change the way i feel about it.. but its for the good and for the bad.. cigarette butts do make a course look bad.. they smell, and they are everywhere.. but thats from the people who dont care.. its not too hard to keep ur cig butt in ur dg bag.. thats what i do after i smoke.. and then i empty my bag after.. just dont be rude and throw em on the ground.. top pros like climo and feldberg smoke.. i just dont understand the ppl who complain about the smoke.. ppl smoke everywhere.. just dont stand by someone who is smoking. 
Why does the nonsmoker have to avoid standing by the cigarette smoker? It should go both ways! Ever think about the smoker not standing next to a nonsmoker? And I seen alot of people throw their butts on the course. It's not just the people you think. I seen it all over. It's just during Worlds their talking about. With the publicity that Disc Golf gets at Worlds you would think it would look better for the game not seeing the players smoking. And theirs other people like me who were born with asthma which the smoke affects their game. PEACE
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 10:04:58 PM »
Hey Jr. this isn't over! I didn't think you smoked dope, you're comments make me wonder. General Electric make turbine blades for the bogus wind energy. The government (toy boy obama) gives them money to make the blades & they out source them. Jeff Immelt, CEO for GE, is the jobs Czar for the toy boy administration. Huh?! They didn't pay income tax, oh I forgot that's Bush's fault. I never paid more for gasoline, over $4.00, that f'n Bush. Oh I get it, the 800 billion omnibus bill didn't work, that f'n Bush. The S&P downgraded our long term debt rating, I know, I know, Bush! We can give two billion to Brazil for their off shore drilling but ban the U.S. drilling. Then he tells Brazil we'll be their best customer. I know Bush told him what to say.
Well my brother without the same mother, I love the handicap!!!
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I'm not going there. You know that Frankie LOL. I have to think positive. Good things like good health and happiness. Good health is on top of my list these days and I'm glad you helped me with that. All's I'm saying my Brother!

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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 06:44:10 AM »
Hey Jr. this isn't over! I didn't think you smoked dope, you're comments make me wonder. General Electric make turbine blades for the bogus wind energy. The government (toy boy Obama) gives them money to make the blades & they out source them. Jeff Immelt, CEO for GE, is the jobs Czar for the toy boy administration. Huh?! They didn't pay income tax, oh I forgot that's Bush's fault. I never paid more for gasoline, over $4.00, that f'n Bush. Oh I get it, the 800 billion omnibus bill didn't work, that f'n Bush. The S&P downgraded our long term debt rating, I know, I know, Bush! We can give two billion to Brazil for their off shore drilling but ban the U.S. drilling. Then he tells Brazil we'll be their best customer. I know Bush told him what to say.
Well my brother without the same mother, I love the handicap!!!
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I'm not going there. You know that Frankie LOL. I have to think positive. Good things like good health and happiness. Good health is on top of my list these days and I'm glad you helped me with that. All's I'm saying my Brother!

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 08:58:49 AM »
hahaha i love both you guys.. your a hoot..   i think the smoking ban is gonna get tons of publicity as there will be millions of golfers who outrage.. i can see it going either way.. for the most part, i try not to smoke when i golf.. because i will smoke more cigarettes discin than i would if i was sitting around in my yard. but i do smoke when im out at the course.. i dont play mokena because i dont want to get arrested for smoking a cigarette while i disc golf.. the real disc golfers are the people this will effect.. the people picking up cig butts just because.. it is nasty.. noone wants to pick that shit up.. especially other ppls.. and randy.. im not trying to pull one up you or anything.. but i was just saying that as a smoker, i normally try not to stand by ppl who dont smoke.. ya know.. i smoke and i dont like people blowin smoke at me.     just putting out my two cents.   
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