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Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« on: September 01, 2011, 10:14:32 AM »

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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 12:01:03 PM »
Possible addition to next year’s doubles schedule.
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 08:14:38 PM »
no way to get this on to the winter league schedule???


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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 09:19:04 PM »
no way to get this on to the winter league schedule???
That's interesting. Dana checks in with me time to time to see how I'm doing. We talked about the round barn, unless I miss understood him, it will be done in the fall. Something to do with the grants? The Park District is doing the work, so it's all but done as I understood him. My guess is yes!
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 07:07:25 AM »
no way to get this on to the winter league schedule???




You have to get a hold of Mike Holmquist or Mick McGowan before they decide on their winter schedule.

I'm thinking definitely spring/summer schedule 2012
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 08:47:18 PM »
Jesse's right. The point I was making is it will be ready. I'll mention it to Mike & Mick, it really is their call. Dana mentioned there will be 36 baskets, two for each hole.
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 08:24:42 AM »
Can't wait to check it out. can never have enough disc courses
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 09:45:38 PM »
no way to get this on to the winter league schedule???




You have to get a hold of Mike Holmquist or Mick McGowan before they decide on their winter schedule.

I'm thinking definitely spring/summer schedule 2012
I talked with Mike & Mick has already made out the schedule. As someone overheard me talking with Mike, said there would be a charge for parking. Now that's a rumor, but doesn't suprise me. Think about the cost. Thirty six baskets @ $350.00 ea. = $12,600.00. The concrete, material only is around $125.00 = $2,250.00. My experience with park district employees is at least two do what one can do. I can't imagine what the labor cost will be.Fifteen thousand?  Coming from me, I give to our local courses, mainly Channahon, & also Oswego, Lockport & Highland.
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 05:08:43 PM »
From Brett-

I have some good news and some bad news.

Let's start with the good news. The DGA baskets and tee signs have arrived. The classic barn red baskets are sweet! Concrete work has also begun. The circle tee pads are going to look and play awesome. 

There are a couple of items on the bad side. There was some miscommunication between myself and the park district. There is an area that is going to be off limits due to the planting of wild grass/plants . It was my understanding it was a fairly small area near the creek. I found out it runs the entire length of the creek and comes out 100ft. That area really takes away a sweet par 4 and a creek that was in play. I'm going to have to redesign 3 of the final holes. It's not going to be easy and takes away a really awesome hole. The last is a kick to the nuts. The disc golf course is going to be mostly completed by the end of October like initally planned. The park will not reopen until October of 2012. It could possibly open sooner if the rest of the work (other projects in the park) is completed by then. This means the baskets will not go in the ground until the park is open. It looks like we have some time to wait.

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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 08:24:19 PM »
I can certainly understand that thinking. It take time for things to get established. I bet it will be awesome when they open it & worth the wait. We almost have a new course at Lockport.
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2011, 09:21:58 PM »
Like Frank said it sounds like the course is going to be awesome and well worth the wait. Let me and my bro know if there is anything we can do to help out.

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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2011, 10:35:19 PM »
From what I'm hearing & figuring out, that Park wants hands on, & are doing it themselves. That's why they're trying to figure out how to charge something without bumming out the players, like Mokena. Mokena had a ton of free labor, with Steve Matual & Roy Carey carrying the burden of designing the course. Then they shit on those that made that course possible.  It make total sense with my business backround. We'll see. They don't need or want your help. It's simply the way it is, nothing negative intended.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2011, 08:22:52 PM »
From what I'm hearing & figuring out, that Park wants hands on, & are doing it themselves. That's why they're trying to figure out how to charge something without bumming out the players, like Mokena. Mokena had a ton of free labor, with Steve Matual & Roy Carey carrying the burden of designing the course. Then they shit on those that made that course possible.  It make total sense with my business backround. We'll see. They don't need or want your help. It's simply the way it is, nothing negative intended.

Thanks for letting me know Frank.  It makes sence now that you put it that way. well let me know if there is anything you keed help with with any of the parks.

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2011, 09:44:46 PM »
From what I'm hearing & figuring out, that Park wants hands on, & are doing it themselves. That's why they're trying to figure out how to charge something without bumming out the players, like Mokena. Mokena had a ton of free labor, with Steve Matual & Roy Carey carrying the burden of designing the course. Then they shit on those that made that course possible.  It make total sense with my business backround. We'll see. They don't need or want your help. It's simply the way it is, nothing negative intended.

Thanks for letting me know Frank.  It makes sence now that you put it that way. well let me know if there is anything you keed help with with any of the parks.
You know what? I've got a project for Thor I'm going to do. There is some bullshit grunt labor involved & would welcome help. Thor said he'd be available???? What I'm going to do is put a concrete wall for long #10 at Lockport for the follow through. I'm not looking forward of getting the crap out of the way. It may start the end of next week, Thursday?  I'm playing Homie & I don't want to exhaust myself like I did for the Classic. I'm still bummed, small turn out from outside activities. Weather??? That would be an excuse.
If you can send me a personal message on how I can get in touch. This will be a week day project, during business hours. If that doesn't work, we'll wait until something does.
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Re: Manhattan, IL--Round Barn Disc Golf Course
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2011, 11:09:57 AM »
I have some extra time this morning so I figured I'd give some info.

I got a call about this project late this summer. Initially this was a 9 hole course. This project was initially funded by a state grant. I'm familiar with this because I've seen quite a few courses get installed this way. There is a point system and the more activities the park adds the more money they get to fund the park. Disc golf is benefitting greatly from this.

When I met with the project manager he stated he wanted the course to be played. The initial 9 hole design was pretty bad. I told him that a 9 hole course would not be played that much with all the quality 18+ hole courses surrounding it. That is when I started talking 18 holes. I explained the land wasn't the best in the area but we could make this the most unique course in Illinois to bring people in. The location off 80/55 is pretty awesome. The park board decided to go with the project. They get some money from the state but decided to use more funds to expand to 18 with 2 baskets. There is nearly $40,000 worth of equipment and labor invested in this course. This is how disc golf should be. Parks are spending $100,000 to $200,000 on those playground areas. This course is being done right from the beginning.

Here are some things that will make it unique. 12 of the holes will have 12 foot circular tee pads. 2 panel tee signs.  2 practice baskets. 2 sets of Mach 5's with # plates. The classic barn red looks awesome! Hole #1 will feature manmade island greens for each pin. Water will come into play on several of the long pins. There will be 2 hanging baskets. They will hang from chains from monsterous oaks. One pin will be installed and elevated inside a stump. One hole will have 2 baskets stacked on top of each other (I've never seen this done). One of the holes will have a pretty nice tunnel to throw down. The hyzer route is going to be blocked off by being creative. It will either be blocked by hay bails or piled wood chips. Although the course is rather flat a few greens will be tough with the manmade berms.

The park itself has some decent land but it's not awesome. There were a ton of restrictions that made it very tough to make a solid course.  Across the road there were ball fields going in. No cutting to any trees due to it being forest preserve property. The wooded area and creek were absolutely off limits. This took away from some really awesome holes with water, elevation, and woods. In the front they are growing native grasses and it took away another great hole. There are 3 pavillions and a walking paths to avoid. The short (silver) pins are intended for brand new and novice players. It's very short and very beginner friendly. The long (barn red) baskets will probably under par to most advanced and pro players. This will be a really good addition to the area. It's going to be very player friendly. There aren't too many places to lose a disc and it won't be that wet/muddy.

I've told this to quite a few people. This course is not championship in terms of difficulty. It will be fun to play and has a decent variety. It will be championship quality in terms of equipment. The signs, pads, and baskets will be top notch!